So Let Me Get This Straight

Obama unleashed the full power of the federal government to help with an environmental disaster in the Gulf Coast (which he should).  BUT, for the last two years the Arizona border has been as open as a storm drain, and they do nothing?  Arizona passes a law because it has too, because as a state they do not have the money or means to control their border.  When its an environment disaster, we get action.  But when it involves the illegal flooding of a state Obama and Co. not only shrug their shoulders but call them racists and will likely seek litigation.  The real reason of course is that these illegals will somehow get a job with a government either local, state, or federal and be able to join one of the public sector unions. 

You don't like what Arizona did, libs?  They had no choice! The federal government, from the day Obama took office, has failed in spectacular fashion to maintain the integrity of our borders.  In fact, I dare say the progressives infesting the executive branch want these folks here.  Instead of calling Arizona racist, how about you do your job?

Comments

[Dan]

Nice partisan spin you put on this. The fact is that we haven't had a rational immigration policy (or one we enforced) for a very long time. To pretend this situation magically presented itself the day Obama took office is more than silly.

Remember all the wonderful things that George W. Bush did post 9/11 to "keep us safe"? Well, that didn't do a damned thing along our southern border. I don't know how you think border security was any better then than it is now.

Let's pick a barometer to measure the porous nature of our border after 9/11 that has nothing to do with either terrorism or illegal immigration. Just to keep it objective and unemotional. How about the street price of drugs that flow across our southern border?

At no point during the Bush administration did the street price of drugs spike up as you would expect if border security had been significantly addressed post 9/11. I imagine if security was significantly improved the flow of drugs would have been impeded and the price on the street would have spiked. Didn't happen though. The border was just as much of a sieve post 9/11 as it had been pre 9/11. So it is likely that just as many illegals (and terrorists) were crossing too.

Immigration policy and enforcement is a serious national problem. To reduce it to part of the ever present and increasingly silly anti-Obama noise just makes it seem like a joke. Which it is not.

As far as Arizona's recently passed law goes, I would think there are many aspects that conservatives who have a healthy distrust of government would have a problem with. Unless Republican partisanship trumps actual conservative principles.

I understand the frustration a border state must feel in the absence of federal action. But this is not a wise law.

[Chris]

I don't know how I would have voted for that bill if I could. But I'm sure viewpoint of someone from Arizona is different than yours.

State legislatures and governors have an obligation also to protect their state. Its a simple solution if someone had the stones to do it . . . beef up the border patrol all across the border and build a fence. That's it.

But border security IS a federal responsibility and for the last 20 years that responsibility has been sacrifice at the altar of political correctness and identity politics. If your for this, your a racist.

But the last 20 years don't matter now. Obama is president NOW, and I'm just waiting for the blame-Bush crowd to come out. The fact is, its Barack H. Obama's job NOW to fix this and the problem cannot be fixed without closing the border. You can't heal the body from a single gunshot wound by while firing more bullets into the body. That is, effectively, what is happening.

The liberals out there will come on here and pine about "its a complicated issue," "it needs deep thought," etc etc. And your right, but no consideration can be given to a cure before an innoculation is given. I will keep an open mind about any solution towards all the illegals here once we stop them from coming.

The insistence of looking at these people as anything but illegal simply legitimizes their status in this country that is illegitimate.

[Dan]

"The liberals out there will come on here and pine about "its a complicated issue,"

Well, it is in fact a complex issue. And simplistic answers like "build a wall" don't begin to address it in any meaningful way. Bumper sticker slogans like "drill baby drill" or "build a wall" may make you feel better but they surely don't provide any answers to immigration policy or energy security or national security.

You might want to consider how the dumbing down of the conservative movement (a movement that was once quite intellectual until that seemed to become a liability with the base) has contributed to the lack of meaningful solutions before you join the bumper sticker morons. These problems are decades in the making. With plenty of blame to spread around. Silly partisan rhetoric isn't likely to produce much that is of value.

You go ahead and waste billions of dollars building your wall. Now what are you going to do about the 12 to 14 million people on the wrong side of that wall who are here illegally? And after you have figured out how to round up and deport millions of people you can figure out how you are going to get a good chunk of them back in to pick your fruits and vegetables. And what do you do with the children who are American citizens whose parents are illegals? Do you deport the parents and put the kids in foster care? Do you deport the children who are citizens? Because there is no basis in law to do that. Unless you are willing to shred the Constitution in order to rid yourself of these inconvenient American citizens.

See. Some issues are really complex. They don't lend themselves easily to silly bumper sticker slogans.

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