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July 30, 2010

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Daniel Davies

Much as I like Stewart's actions on immigration, I'd rather see Del. Bob Marshall as our 2012 Senate nominee. Marshall is intellectually brilliant, a total take-no-prisoners type, and he will create more havoc in the US Senate than anyone can imagine.

You Betcha

Stewart 1, Marshall 0.

John Wayne

PWC BOCS Chairman Corey Stewart has demonstrated leadership on a multitude of issues,but still has a way to go on a statewide run for office.He needs a kitchen cabinet of advisors.

Delegate Bob Marshall has been honest and forthright with his constituents and would be a breath of fresh air for not only our current Senate Democrats in office but also for fellow Republicans.

Chairman Stewart should follow in the steps of Bob Marshall and learn from the true "citizen legislator"

local gop

bob marshall=jim web wins....

Steven Osborne

local gop,

Bob Marshall= a legislative mind

If Bob Marshall is so unelectable then how does he manage to get reelected in NoVa?

Vladimir Sanchez

Steven,
Don't get wrapped around the axle with local gop. He's a we'll known idiot. Good for comic relief, not much else.

Sandy Buenovista

Mr. Osborne,
Actually, local gop is not an idiot. He's a moron.

mytwocents

It takes much much more than an anti illegal immigration platform, rule of law or whatever the current cool name to win a U.S. Senate seat. I highly suspect Corey Stewart knows this. He is much better suited to run for Lt. Gov and even that will be an uphill race but much more plausible.

It absolutely useless arguing with a Marshall supporter on why he cannot even come close to winning a Senate seat. That being said, if he goes against Gilmore again he will have my vote in a second. I'd love to see Forbes or Wittman make a run but that's just not going to happen as they will stand down to Allen and don't want to risk losing their own seats.

Chris

sadly the only lockdown, keep-Allen out of the race candidates right now are McDonnell and Cuccinelli. I have it on very good authority that Bolling has no interest in the race.

Corey is more than just illegal immigration trust me. Just watch how all these local officials are sprouting up all over the country.

Chris

PS - the kind of people that say Marshall = Webb win are the kind who insisted that Ken would be a huge drag on the '09 ticket and that Herrity would dismantle Fimian. Oops.

Not Sold Yet On Marshall

Nevertheless, I don't think what Marshall said about disabled children is going to be forgotten.

It was probably an ill-considered comment, to be sure, but sometimes those comments reveal what someone was really thinking and the sort of theological thinking behind that particular comment is truly revolting to many a Christian who believes in a loving god.

I guess we'll see what happens.

Harold Hill

PS - the kind of people that say Marshall = Webb win are the kind who insisted that Ken would be a huge drag on the '09 ticket and that Herrity would dismantle Fimian. Oops.

That would be local gop's two-man band; one moron, one idiot. It would be fun to watch the argument over which one gets to lead.

local gop

bob marshall is a local candidate. that's why he keeps winning. frankly his comments about mentally handicapped kids has royaly screwed any shot he has at the u.s. senate. atleast for any sane person.

i have heard many solid R voters that have said his comments on mentally handicapped kids would cause them to not support him if he won the nod.

marshall, unlike keith, could not get away with running a 100% attack dog campaign and expect to win. herrity's camp had many short comings ie failing to reach pwc. i openly supported herrity and still openly and freely say that fimian has very slim to no chances of beating connolly UNLESS there is a big change between now and election day.

cuccinelli won in a convention with a deeply flawed voting system which gives weight to local party performance and not to population centers. ie arlington county has less votes than a solid party in down state. aside from the a$$ backwards voting system at the state convention which was designed to help party insiders like jim gilmore, cooch had some damn good coat tails. there was not a single location that gave cooch more votes than mcdonnell, not a one. mcdonnell won fairfax, cooch did not. mcdonnell, bill, and ken campaigned as a single ticket with mcdonnell being the main front man. little to no attention was paid to the AG race outside of party circles. the media did little coverage on the AG or LG. to say that cooch's performance in 2009 is indicative of how he would run as governor or even senate is premature. they are different races with different dynamics. of course none of the cooch kool aid drinkers would ever remember his elections to the senate in which his win margind dropped from 7% to less than 100 votes against a liberal WACK NUT and terrible campaigner. Cooch has political skills.

BUT, like obama, Cooch rode a wave, he didn't walk on water...

it would be unwise to go into a governor or senate election assuming cooch would blow out the competition.

Chris

PS - Cuccinelli did barely beat McDonnell in the 5th. So yes, McDonnell ran ahead of him but you can't claim that not a single location.

Also, you clearly don't understand what happened at that convention. There was a concentrated effort in the state party, led by Phil Cox, to NOT have Ken Cuccinelli on the ticket - hence Cox's firm consulted for John Brownlee. I remember people thinking it would take 2 or 3 ballots, and instead Ken crushed him. If you claim the convention was made for "party insiders" than Brownlee would have and should have won. Ken spent a year mobilizing and organizing his base to get into local parties so they could get to the convention. I was at both 2008 and 2009, and the difference in attendance was probably 8,000 people. It was basic organization at the grassroots and saw for the first time that while McDonnell was the head of the party, Cuccinelli was its heart.

By arguing that Cooch "rode a wave" proves why so many "moderates" out there continue to back losing candidates over and over. You just don't understand regular conservatives. McDonnell would have never gotten the margin he did without Ken, and Ken would have never gotten the margin he did without Bob. They needed each other. McDonnell brought over the independents and conservative Ds while Cuccienlli absolutely roraed out the conservative base and they voted for McDonnell without him have to, what to folks like you might characterize, as embarassingly reaching out to them.

As to your criticism about his Senate campaigns - I was there for him and Jeannemarie in 2007. I don't know where you were but I was out there in the districts getting hard Rs doors slammed in our faces because of the way people felt about Republicans. Oleszek may have been a terrible candidate, but she was a Democrat in a Democrat county in the midst of a true Democrat wave. It was the moderates, the people who didn't take conservatives seriously and thought you had to run to the middle that got clobbered (Jeannemarie) and it was the hard-running, consistent conservative that won (Cuccinelli). Sorry.

The fact that you Kyle and others like you continue to look at someone like Ken as someone just with "skills" who got lucky and rode a wave proves you truly don't understand the Republican base and where the party is going. I respect your passion in your arguments, but after a while I have to wonder why your candidates who think like you keep losing. Ken isn't some lucky, johnny-come-lately who rode a wave - he is one of the leaders of a new movement that is taking over the party and is winning elections and primaries.

So yes, he would crush Jim Webb - who is an inherently weak candidate despite his honorable and honest bearing. For Webb to win, he needs another politician-as-usual ready to stumble over themselves like Allen. Cuccinelli is the real deal. Have you ever noticed how many times lately you guys have had to say "oh yeah, I support what Ken is doing?"

Anonymous

Someone commented that "PWC BOCS Chairman Corey Stewart has demonstrated leadership on a multitude of issues..."

I guess it depends on how you define "leadership." For example, just last night Corey Stewart was very busy throwing his smart growth supporters and long time ally Supervisor John Stirrup under the bus to bust through Prince William County's protected rural area.

We do not need leaders who act like this. Check out the post at http://www.tooconservative.com.

Citizen tom

Let's keep things in perspective. Cuccinelli, Marshall, and Stewart beat any Democrat, and all of them have statewide reputations.

My personal preference for Senate is Bob Marshall. We need someone in the Senate ready to fight for our rights. Marshall understands how to work a legislature, and he has gone to court for us and won. When everyone else in the General Assembly had given up, Marshall took the bill that authorized the Northern Virginia Transportaton Authority to tax us to court, and he beat it 7 - 0. Marshall also authored the legislation that gave Cuccinelli legal standing to take that damn health care bill to court. And don't forget the marriage amendment Marshall authored. After what some fool Federal judge just did in California, it should be obvious that if we want some decent judges, we need to send Marshall to the Senate.

local gop

are we talking about Ken or Marshall? I was specifically referring to Marshall. And in my point about Marshall I stated that he does not have the same political skills as Ken does. And he doesnt. All 3 state wides had a lot going in their favor, pretending they didnt is ignoring reality. there is nothing wrong with that, but it doesnt necessarily bleed over into a senate race especially when a president is on the ticket.

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