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May 28, 2012

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Greg L

Probably the most informative discussion on conventions v. primary was done in 2008 by SCC member David Ray. It's REALLY worth a read.

http://shaunkenney.com/2009/06/david-ray-convention-or-primary/

James Young

I have long been a supporter of conventions over primaries. That having been said, I think it would be a mistake to change from one to the other once the decision already has been made.

The more vexing question is why the SCC thought it had the authority to set the method for nomination so far in advance, when they all knew that a new SCC would be elected in the interim. That may give this SCC the hook it needs to justify is reconsideration of the method.

Ghost of Alexander Hamilton

I think Young has it right, good or bad a decision was made many months ago and candidates and possible candidates have made their decisions accordingly. You can't go back now.

Ghost of Aaron Burr

Sure you can. The proposed convention would be a year out. Of course you can change it back and restore the chi balance of the universe.

Bruce

Having just seen how well conventions work in the 11th, do you really want to go through that statewide?

Primaries are both cleaner and more inclusive. Go with the ballot box whenever you can.

Chris

I will say Bruce that the 2009 statewide convention came off beautifully and really launched the ticket into the fall. It can work both ways on both choices.

Lillian

The 2009 statewide convention was a coronation for the top of the ticket, and the only thing up for a vote was the bottom of the ticket. There is a huge difference between choosing an AG candidate (only) by convention, where 90%+ of Republican voters probably wouldn't bother voting in a primary for that position alone, and choosing the top of the ticket that way.

Chris

Actually is AG AND LG . . . Patrick Muldoon was challenging Bill Bolling. It speaks to the volatile nature of conventions because in 2008 we had one for both a Senate seat and the state party chairmanship and it was terrible but a year later we had one essentially for "the bottom of the ticket" and it was huge.

There is no doubt in my mind that that Convention helped launch our ticket to victory. I was there I felt the energy and momentum shift during the day. It was pretty awesome.

Lillian

As someone who was a precinct captain and regional coordinator for several precincts throughout 2009 (i.e. for the special election in February and the general election in November), I did not sense any shift coming out of the convention. In Fairfax we had almost won the Chairmanship of the county in February and did win the Braddock Supervisor seat in March. That's where our momentum was coming from. Add in disasterous policies coming from across the river, a really strong GOP candidate for Governor, and a really lame Democrat opponent who couldn't turn out the base in Northern Virginia, and we had a banner year. I had tons of volunteers that year, and never met a one who said it was the convention that got them involved.

Now, I was at the 2009 convention, and it was a pretty good rally, but honestly the only part that was uniquely electrifying was Adnan Barqawi's speech. Maybe that's my impression because I didn't get bused in to vote for one candidate--I signed up because I felt I should as an active Republican. But I was still undecided about the AG candidate until I got to the floor of the convention and could see that one of my two finalists had a snowball's chance in you-know-where. Then I thought, let's just get this over with in one ballot so I can go home to my baby.

Stephen Spiker

You felt the energy shift in a room full of dedicated GOP activists who paid money to be there, and think we won in the general election because of that?

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